Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Ringo Gives Us A Clue - Do the Math
The latest Official Ringo Starr update certainly urges us to do the Math. So fasten your seat belt (Alas, if he would have fastened his seatbelt, this would not be necessary).
Obviously our journey to enlightenment involves the passage of time.
The Beatles have a great interest in the passage of time. I know of no album that has more references to time than Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
So imagine my surprise to hear Ringo promoting his appearance on the Powerpuff Girls. We have crossed this road before.
Notice the clock in a frame from the first Beatles-related Powerpuff case.
So is there anything mysterious in this new Powerpuff episode featuring Ringo?
Yes, it turns out that Ringo portrays famous mathematician Fibonacci. The famous Fibonacci sequence and its relationship with the Golden Ratio is enough to make you think there is some kind of conspiracy of hidden knowledge being programmed into kids. The Fibonacci Sequence is closely related to Indian Mathematics. In fact some credit goes to an Indian number cruncher named Gopāla, who was not mentioned specifically in an unreleased George Harrison song, or was he?
But it is Fibonacci himself who leads us into a most interesting area of mystery. In his book Liber Abaci, the famous mathematician considers the fruition and multiplication of a group of rabbits who spontaneously died in the movie El Topo, a John Lennon favorite, whose soundtrack was released on Apple Records.
All of those Fibonacci rabbits died when they sensed the presence of a stranger who would kill their master. Now what kind of hole would a bunch of dead rabbits lead to???
UPDATE:O silly me. I forget to send Ringo's tree to the "I can see a face in the tree" department. Geoffrey, take it down right away, please.
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1 – 200 of 230 Newer› Newest»"Obviously our journey to enlightenment involves the passage of time."
Time has finished the passage. Enlightenment came to you, not vice versa.
You'll see the same symbol on the "altar" under the sun back at the "office"
what kind of hole would a bunch of dead rabbits lead to???
The glory hole.
lol
A girl comes towards you
You once used to know
You reach out your hand
But you're all alone, in these
Time passages
I know you're in there, you're just out of sight
Time passages
Buy me a ticket on the last train home tonight
done
Looks like Ringo and iamaphoney have the same statue in the background.
Look at phoneys room when he talks on the phone, and then look at Ringos.
Skary!
Someone already said that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana's_Tree
"Stuttering, cold and damp, steal the warm wind tired friend
Times are gone for honest men and sometimes far too long for snakes
In my shoes, a walking sleep in my youth I pray to keep Heaven send Hell away, no one sings like you any more
Black hole sun, won't you come?
And wash away the rain Black hole sun, won't you come?
Won't you come?"
doesn't look the same to me at all
Its not identical but close.
can you upload pictures tafultong?that would be great
This was an odd post. How, exactly, is ringo telling us to do the math in his vid? I've watched it, and failed to spot it. Not sure if it has to do with the statue, and equally unsure how any of the stuff you mentioned relates... save vaguely and synchronistically.
However, there is DEFINITELY a face in that bush. lol
what's it look like?
Notice the clock in a frame from the first Beatles-related Powerpuff case
notice Ringo's in a headlock and crowns and jewels, and a diamond ring too.
We have crossed this road before.
I see a rock.
ah, the famous Powerpuff Clues!
you guys have all lost your f-ing minds
How wonderful to see Iamaphoney is no longer the centre of attention of the blog that bears his name, and rightly so... he sandbagged us all after years of opaque and often made-up “clues” building up to his Big Revelation of 2012: Nothing! And nothing is what he’s got out of it now; no promised revelation and now no followers. Perhaps the second is because of the first?
Taf, why don't you realise what we already know: As one of the de facto leaders of what remains of the PID truth movement, you must shift the aim of this blog from a minor musician and his YouTube videography to PID itself, taking the lead Phoney had neglected and from which he ran and hid. We need answers, not a bunch of blarney, because these facts remain today after nearly half a century: How could a man 24 years, fewer than two years later, have grown two inches taller, somehow changed the colour of his iris (from brown to hazel) along with the length and shape of his oval face (among other physiological anomalies)? These are but a few of thousands of questions concerning this man we know today as Sir Paul McCartney.
Somebody like yourself, Taf, should rightly assume the lead, and raise the spirits, of what's left of the PID neighbourhood because all the discussion threads out there just keep going ‘round and 'round in circles, and meanwhile here we were all thinking Iamaphoney was leading us somewhere. Indeed he was: not to some answers about Paul’s death or disappearance (and why) nor the identity and nature of the modern Sir Paul, but indirectly though symbolism, Luciferianism, Satanism, numerology, and everything else (but “kitchen sinkism”) on a circuitous quest to the real destination: his music.
What some unknown musicians won’t do for a little attention! The unhappy part is he’s such a talented musician, writer and arranger... witness what he did with the tune "Shoes", based on a brief, poorly recorded interview -- bloody amazing, and his latest music contains some truly brilliant material. But we entered this circus and paid our 20p to see the Bearded Lady in the advert, not some midget in blackface playing a harpsichord and harmonica simultaneously while eating chip butties with a bucks fizz chaser.
"How could a man 24 years, fewer than two years later, have grown two inches taller, somehow changed the colour of his iris (from brown to hazel) along with the length and shape of his oval face (among other physiological anomalies)?"
Well aren't you the expert.
You know, you raise some interesting questions and I'm wondering how you, some random dude in 2012, noticed those differences all on your own while no one in the 1960s noticed at all.
Huh. I guess back then Paul McCartney, who had millions of adoring fans staring at his photos day at night, never caught that. His friends, family, girlfriends, groupies, attorney's, postmen, engineers, producers, photographers and any one else who saw and worked with him on a regular basis didn't notice. Robert Freeman, who had access to them and photographed them virtually at will, didn't notice Paul McCartney was suddenly two inches taller. A different guy.
Or . . .maybe you have no idea what you're talking about and got your information and "facts" from other PID people. Maybe, just maybe, your facts are wrong.
If you're interested in solving a supposed mystery, you are best served by ensuring you have your facts straight before jumping to wrong conclusions. Let's pretend I'm so unknown entity, and my job is to replace Paul McCartney, who at the time was one of the most recognizable faces in the world, and I'm going to hire someone two inches taller with a different eye color? You think so?
As if Eric Burdon or Mick Jagger of any one of Paul's friends or doctors or hairstylists wouldn't have noticed?
Duh.
As if I'm some super secret society and I'm so inept I don't know to give the guy some brown contact lenses? You're joking, right?
First off, McCartney was and is 5'11". He is not six foot one.
As Paul stated back in the early 60s to a fan mag:
Born-June 18, 1942~5ft 11in.
Eyes-Hazel
Hair-Brown
Siblings-Mike
Instruments-Bass guitar,drums,piano,banjo
Likes-Music,TV~Dislikes-Shaving
Professional ambition-To popularise our sound.
We've all seen PID photos where Paul looks a little taller. We've seen photos where John looks taller than Paul. Countless times. Photos aren't reliable for scale. So don't rely on them.
His eyes are HAZEL, which means his eyes look brown but in brighter or direct light look more green. By the way, that greenish hue will show up in bright light even for people with "pure" brown eyes - because green is part of the color make up of brown, and no human being has an eye color that is devoid of secondary tint or hue. Even human hair is made of dozens or more colors. The majority of fan magazine and other "color" photos of Paul pre-66 aren't even true color photos. Were you aware of this? The fact is that most fans prior to 1967 or so saw them in black and white and/or "colorized" black and white pictures (adding tint to the photos by hand)or 2-color print jobs, which is one reason all four look like they have black or dark brown hair and similar complexions, etc. Fact is, Lennon had reddish-colored hair and he was freckled from head to toe. You wouldn't know this from those old photos, however.
So. . . you can drop the six foot one myth and the brown eyes myth before continuing with your theory.
If you are serious about facts and detective work, you have to RULE OUT facts even when they work against your theory. If you are unable to rule out facts such as this you are no longer objectively looking for truth. You are then guilty of confirmation bias.
Check into it and get back to me.
Yeah, if I were to go solely on photos or film or videos I might easily conclude Paul had jet black hair.
Sure looks black in Hard Day's Night. And in Let it Be.
I realize it's not jet black, but dark brown, but that's photography for you.
It's not Paul, it's the clone!
major revelation on YouTube! - said no one ever.
After a long pause, you're really moving now, Taf.
Feels like old times.......
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Vince,
Congrats on the book!
'We've all seen PID photos where Paul looks a little taller. We've seen photos where John looks taller than Paul. Countless times. Photos aren't reliable for scale. So don't rely on them.'
Yes, this point and all the others in your post have been made before on forums etc. Trouble is, they are always either ignored or incredulously dismissed. It's a waste of time. In the last few years PID has morphed into a strange little faith on the internet, where simple facts are most definately not welcome.
where simple facts are most definately not welcome
very strange
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Very few people indeed could handle the information that is necessary to comprehend the PID issue, even hard core PIDers. Why? Because we are not prepared to know who we truly are. Only at the point when you are ready to know that will you know.
Iamaphoney, and others,have received "help" from rogue black ops intelligence agents, but as the "timing" is not right yet, Iamaphoney would be dead before he could spill the beans.
For Fibonacci read "Fib of No Chi." And it's in your DNA. That's what's at stake. Not PID. Ponder that if you will.
"Very few people indeed could handle the information that is necessary to comprehend the PID issue, even hard core PIDers. Why? Because we are not prepared to know who we truly are. Only at the point when you are ready to know that will you know."
Don't you mean that we are not prepared to know who Faul truly is?
"Iamaphoney, and others,have received "help" from rogue black ops intelligence agents, but as the "timing" is not right yet, Iamaphoney would be dead before he could spill the beans."
Reminds me of something I read on a PID forum where a poster recalled a conversation with his boss, a former MI5 staffer, who told him the Beatles were a fraud perpetrated by a branch of covert ops. Why is the question.
"For Fibonacci read "Fib of No Chi." And it's in your DNA. That's what's at stake. Not PID. Ponder that if you will."
Is this about DNA creating your reality? Reality being frequency patterns. The Beatles were used to alter our DNA and thus alter our perceived reality. To Crowley's preferred vision of reality? Mmmm...methinks thou mightest be onto something there.....or not
"Reality being frequency patterns. The Beatles were used to alter our DNA and thus alter our perceived reality. To Crowley's preferred vision of reality?"
Well that explains everything... I knew I shouldn't have not had that DNA activated in 2008. It has been s DMT saga ever since or maybe prep for what is coming. Unbeknownst to most.
"But we entered this circus and paid our 20p to see the Bearded Lady in the advert, not some midget in blackface playing a harpsichord and harmonica simultaneously while eating chip butties with a bucks fizz chaser."
Good One;)
The bearded lady just got a shave, so the price just went up.
This Fibonacci thing is interesting, because even though New Agers wax lyrical about it ad nauseum, the existence of the Fibonacci spiral is nevertheless a scientific fact. "Fib of No Chi" implies that life's energy flows are inorganic, unnatural. We die because of it. Fibonacci is our death sentence.
Thanks Ringo. Who are you?
"Fib of No Chi" implies that life's energy flows are inorganic
No it doesn't! What BS!
The "Fib of No Chi" is that we are powerless in this realm.
The Fibonacci spiral shows we're not powerless.
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Faullow the yellow brick road!- find Emerald City.
(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my in·fan·cy,
(8) red and yel·low then came to be,
(5) rea·ching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beck·ons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) in·fi·nite pos·si·bil·i·ties.
(13) As be·low so a·bove and be·yond I im·ag·ine,
(8) drawn out·side the lines of rea·son.
(5) Push the en·ve·lope.
(3) Watch it bend.
The line "As below so above and beyond, I imagine" is a quote from one of the Seven Aphorisms of Summum and is also a direct reference to Hermeticism and the Emerald Tablet.
An interesting side note, in alchemy "The Great Work" begins with the Nigredo (black), then moves to the Albedo (white), then the Citrinitas (yellow), then the Rubedo (Red).
Red.
It's what you've been waiting for.
"Iamaphoney, and others,have received "help" from rogue black ops intelligence agents, but as the "timing" is not right yet, Iamaphoney would be dead before he could spill the beans."
How's life in fantasyland?
Sure, he received help from black ops to make the usual PID arguments while recording his ditty's for iTunes. "Hi. I'm with Black Operations. We want to help you with your YouTube videos."
"Reminds me of something I read on a PID forum where a poster recalled a conversation with his boss, a former MI5 staffer, who told him the Beatles were a fraud perpetrated by a branch of covert ops. Why is the question."
The first question is why would you believe something a goofball conspiracy theorist said on a PID forum, which is filled with bullshitters who believe they are in the know? That's one of the hallmarks of conspiracy theorists. They want to feel important and privy to secret info.
Maybe try being less credulous and a tad more skeptical.
Maybe you should practice saying "bye bye".
now now
Be nice.
Time is Tight
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'where simple facts are most definately not welcome
very strange'
Can't tell whether you're agreeing or find that 'strange' for some other reason.
For those who are interested:
The Fibonacci sequence, 1,1,2,3,5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55....etc gives numbers to different energy quanta. In order to progress the Fibonacci sequence requires new numbers to "consume" the previous two numbers. The new number has no relationship with its predecessors. In this sense Fibonacci is an energy formula for finite life, which is what biological life on earth is.
So is it organic?
Well, if you take the view, as most people do, that everything that exists is natural due to the simple fact of its existence, then Fibonacci is organic. The moon is organic too, and so is the earth's 23.5 degrees off kilter axis. Things are what they seem.
"Fib of No Chi" implies that we live in a system where the energy flows are distorted. Not easy to get one's head around this, but if you can't even grasp the concept then what are you doing in a conspiracy forum? For this is the ultimate conspiracy.
What has it got to do with PID? Everything.
Errr....Fibonacci, the moon, earth's axis....that's outta my league. WTF...I just wanna know what's going on with Paul/Faul.
Back on earth, I would have thought it was pretty likely that MI5/CIA are involved. The Beatles would never have gotten so big without invisible hands pulling strings. So many weird deaths surround the Beatles from Brian Epstein to Mal Evans..... somebody was watching over them.
Obviously there are undeniable occult symbols and references, and not just to Alisteir Crowley (who worked for British intelligence), but nobody has explained them so far. I have no idea how they connect to Paul's "replacement." If indeed he was replaced. But it makes sense to me that whatever the truth is....it involves some kind of "dark art." Faul isn't exactly a regular double. There will be a scientific explanation, absolutely, but I think the science involved is "classified" to say the least. So most folk would consider it unbelievable or absurd.
The Beatles would never have gotten so big without invisible hands pulling strings
that's such b.s.
no one forced us or tricked us into liking and buying their records. even today kids get into them with no real marketing - have you heard them? they're good plain and simple. fact is,kids love music and thats why they buy it.
they recorded at least 6 of the best albums of all time. nothing secret about it.
Hahahaha...we've all been tricked into things all our lives. Wake up buddy. But you must suspect things are not what they appear otherwise you wouldn't be reading this stuff in the first place..so less of the debunking please.
Hahahaha...we've all been tricked into things all our lives. Wake up buddy. But you must suspect things are not what they appear otherwise you wouldn't be reading this stuff in the first place..so less of the debunking please.
we can be tricked for a bit but i got into beatles in the 80s when they weren't cool to like. i suppose my peers were tricked into liking the police and U2 instead, such is life.
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Not sure why anyone would want "less of the debunking" for a subject like this. Debunking is good.
With a conspiracy theory it's impossible to check every little fact. You are better served going for Proof By Contradiction. If someone argues "All swans are white" you can't check every swan in the entire world to see whether it's true. You only have to find a single counter example. And so. . .one black swans PROVES that not all swans are white.
So debunking and skepticism is the best way to prove a theory because you can use it to rule out a particular fact so you don't waste your time.
Where are the hundreds of random comments that used to pointlessly bore and alienate casual readers? What the hell is going on here??
"With a conspiracy theory it's impossible to check every little fact. You are better served going for Proof By Contradiction. If someone argues "All swans are white" you can't check every swan in the entire world to see whether it's true. You only have to find a single counter example. And so. . .one black swans PROVES that not all swans are white. "
Yes, but then you will get the 'all swans are white' theorists saying that Faul painted that swan black.
"Tricked" is hardly the word. We live with or under electromagnetic mind control nets designed to affect us on various levels. The Van Allen belts are no more organic than the moon is. People drawn to the PID issue are responding to "holes" in the nets.
Fibonacci is central to the distorted energy matrix that runs thru us. Trolls, skeptics, or debunkers cannot or do not address these type of fundamental issues. Under the guise of "free thinking" they unwittingly promote the "net" viewpoint.
Fibonacci is important to PID because it explains Crowley, the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project..among other things.
999nowhereman has drawn attention to August 8/9, but it is the date of Aug 12 that is crucial. The week Aug 8-15th is fundamental to understanding what is going on, but Aug 12 represents the peak period. When was the Olympic Games closing ceremony? What happened?
Youknowmyname231 like to say "open your eyes" but it takes a lot of studying to learn how to see. And as regards the PID issue, those who know cannot simply tell us. The truth is unpalatable. In dribs and drabs it can be swallowed.
Crowley, Zeta Rigelian/ Wormholes/Parallel earth/ Brecon Beacons/ Human cloning/NSA/MI5/Black hole/....see what I mean?
Date of Philadelphia Experiment.... 12 August. Date of Montauk Project.... 12 August. Opening date of Beatles 1966 tour....12 August.
According to Preston Moon, Aug 12 is the day when the earth's biorhythms peak. Best I can glean from that is that the earth's electromagnetic field spin speed is the fastest. Also according to Peter Moon, Alisteir Crowley did a special ceremony on Aug 12 every year, including being married on that day. This year's Olympic closing ceremony on Aug 12 depicted a Phoenix rising from the flames.
Some bloody rabbit hole.
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Lam...Crowley's alien mentor - that's the Grey drawing which keeps popping up in the videos. Zeta Rigelian. You're blowing my mind dude!!!!!!!
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"Somebody like yourself, Taf, should rightly assume the lead, and raise the spirits, of what's left of the PID neighbourhood because all the discussion threads out there just keep going ‘round and 'round in circles."
Major dittos.
"Meanwhile here we were all thinking Iamaphoney was leading us somewhere. Indeed he was: not to some answers about Paul’s death or disappearance (and why) nor the identity and nature of the modern Sir Paul, but indirectly though symbolism, Luciferianism, Satanism, numerology, and everything else (but “kitchen sinkism”) on a circuitous quest to the real destination: his music."
Seems that way. But I reckon the story is not over yet, so the jury is still out. What especially smells to me is that Iamaphoney asks for a minimum payment of $6.66. So who is the Crowleyite here?
"Date of Philadelphia Experiment.... 12 August. Date of Montauk Project.... 12 August. Opening date of Beatles 1966 tour....12 August."
Now this is what I call a conspiracy theory, esp as someone pointed out that Crowley married on Aug 12. Anyway, the original Paul was on the last tour, and the original Paul gave the "satanic" (sounds way corny - there must be a better phrase)hand sign in '64 as did Ed Sullivan. Faul is obviously a Crowley devotee, but so was Paul.
"Zeta Rigelian"
Isn't is supposed to be "Reticula"? Crowley was accused of summoning demons from the netherworld, and even boasted of it. So if his demons are one and the same as the alien "greys" of abduction folklore etc, and from his drawings it seems they are, then is Crowley somehow responsible for the modern alien phenomena? Did he actually facilitate the so-called malevolent ET intruder scenario that may or may not be happening?
I think we need to know more about the relationship between the Beatles and Crowley. If there is an alien component in the story then it's no wonder the truth is so damned impossible to unearth.
"I think we need to know more about the relationship between the Beatles and Crowley."
Really, now, is there anything worthwhile to know? Sure, as kids the Beatles (like a lot of rebellious kids in the UK in the early 60s)probably looked into Crowley, but they also looked into James Bond, Bridget Bardot, and in 68 they looked into the Maharishi.
Hell, I'm sure I've read more about Crowley and the occult than all four Beatles and most people, but that doesn't mean I believe any of it or follow Crowley.
After studying UFOs on my own (who doesn't?) for more than 20 years I've given up on the ET hypothesis for numerous reasons.
I gave up on the back-engineering tales after reading countless accounts of NASA and our Govt f-ing up more or less mundane technology, the Lockheed Martin/Boeing competition to create a custom jet (Joint Strike Fighter) for the Defense Dept springs to mind.
They were tasked with making a jet that would combine features such as the ability to do short take off, carrier take off, and vertical take off. Saw a great documentary about it and contrary to the conspiracy theorists' wet dreams, neither company was able to meet the criteria, although Lockheed won the contract.
I mean, these are the TOP engineers and designers in the world. This was for the most lucrative contract in history. And yet Boeing and LM are only human, and they both made a lot of mistakes along the way, none of which indicate super advanced knowledge. In fact, if there's one thing UFOs are supposed to be able to do, it's vertical take off, and we are still unable to do it well, and if we could do it perfectly, no one would say it was ET tech. So what's stopping us from creating the perfect jet? Or even a more well-rounded jet?
We just aren't that advanced yet.
The Harrier Jump Jet is still the best at VTO but it has an awful safety record and numerous other limitations.
Sure, you can always claim we can do superhuman things, but where is the evidence?
All that Montauk stuff is fantasy, guys, and drawing connections with calendar dates is always a sign that someone is getting too wrapped up in connections. I can say that because I was ALL wrapped up in that stuff for several years. But connections are easy to make with anything.
I love physics and love the possibilities, but I'm sorry, gang, that's all talky talk.
"All that Montauk stuff is fantasy, guys, and drawing connections with calendar dates is always a sign that someone is getting too wrapped up in connections. I can say that because I was ALL wrapped up in that stuff for several years. But connections are easy to make with anything."
Dude you need to get you head out of your behind and get out of denial. Messing with the timelines through Montauk is what has fucked everything up.
After studying UFOs, ETs, Montauk, Dulce, black helicopters, NSA/CIA black ops, human cloning, underground bases, missing persons.......I'm convinced more than ever than anyone who claims they are all fantasy is a paid troll. There is no other explanation.
"Black hole sun, won't you come?
And wash away the rain Black hole sun, won't you come?
Won't you come?"
A pertinent quote since there is a black hole at the center of the Milky Way spiral galaxy with which the earth and the sun famously align 180 degrees on Dec 21, 2012. This event is responsible for the "end of the world" doomsday forecasts.
But the black hole is millions of light years away, so how can it affect us? Wormholes are in place.
So does that mean life on earth will end on Dec 21? No.
Why not? Because although our DNA is calibrated in a 34:21 ratio (Fibonaci numbers) the coding is not sufficiently reversed.
Reversing (think Crowley) DNA sequencing is what the "dark side" is all about. Why? Because if our DNA is reversed then we are no longer here. We (our DNA coding) literally creates our manifest reality. We would be in a black hole universe.
You think this is crazy do you?
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"After studying UFOs, ETs, Montauk, Dulce, black helicopters, NSA/CIA black ops, human cloning, underground bases, missing persons.......I'm convinced more than ever than anyone who claims they are all fantasy is a paid troll. There is no other explanation"
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Evidence by quoting someone doesn't count, by the way.
Interesting. AS soon as we get a post that goes into profound topics, the thread is hit with spammers and trolls.
Who does it benefit to debunk UFOs, aliens, Montauk, cloning or the PID truth? The public? Or the interior/secret government?
Trolls always play the "rational" card, implying you are duped if you don't accept the mainstream paradigm. They demand evidence, as though hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses, authors of books, and secret project whistleblower accounts are all a bunch of psychopathic liars.
And they offer up modern science as the cure all. Ignoring the reality that science is controlled and disseminated to the masses thru officially approved channels. All the time, oblivious to the countless convenient deaths of those who get too close to revealing the truth.
So trolls...go back to your keyboards and find other forums to seek out heresies. Collect your pay check and fuck off.
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Who does it benefit to debunk UFOs, aliens, Montauk, cloning or the PID truth? The public? Or the interior/secret government?
Trolls always play the "rational" card, implying you are duped if you don't accept the mainstream paradigm. They demand evidence, as though hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses, authors of books, and secret project whistleblower accounts are all a bunch of psychopathic liars.
And they offer up modern science as the cure all. Ignoring the reality that science is controlled and disseminated to the masses thru officially approved channels. All the time, oblivious to the countless convenient deaths of those who get too close to revealing the truth.
So trolls...go back to your keyboards and find other forums to seek out heresies. Collect your pay check and fuck off.
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I see. And what constitutes evidence? Sworn affidavits? You can check the MJ-12 papers online. Eye witness testimonies? Try a search on amazon.com. Lots of accounts there. Video? Why not take a look at You Tube.
But if you are only convinced by the mainstream media, then even the history channel runs "UFO hunters" and "Ancient Aliens."
So there is a plethora of evidence for the things that I am referring to. If you wish to discount all of it in support of the official explanations..or no explanation whatever, then that is your choice. But it doesn't help your credibility to deny that evidence exists.
Nothing can ever be "proved" in this format. It's the very nature of the format. Period. Trolls will be trolls.
"But if you are only convinced by the mainstream media, then even the history channel runs "UFO hunters" and "Ancient Aliens."
So there is a plethora of evidence for the things that I am referring to. If you wish to discount all of it in support of the official explanations..or no explanation whatever, then that is your choice. But it doesn't help your credibility to deny that evidence exists."
As someone like you who has been keenly interested in UFOs and peripheral topics, I can say there is certainly evidence out there. The question is, how reliable is it? It's a tough topic to crack because there's so much to entertain. But one thing I can say for sure is this notion of UFOs and aliens being some fringe belief is way off the mark. Most Americans already believe in UFOs and at least the possibility of ET. UFOs, believe are not, ARE mainstream. I was once tossing around a UFO book idea to publishers, which took a "both sides" approach, and was advised that it wouldn't sell because "No one wants to read a book debunking UFOs." It's true. For the minority of disbelievers, they could care less about a book "debunking" because they already don't believe and so why would they read it? On the other hand, pro-UFO books are where the money is at. There are literally thousands of pro-UFO books, films, and the rest. It's become an entire cottage industry with its own sub-culture.
The weight of evidence to my mind indicates that, whether or not there are ET UFOs, someone definitely wants you to think there are. It might not be intentional, of course, it could be a combination of a real phenomenon mixed with bad information, but considering the pro-UFO stuff outweighs the anti-UFO stuff by orders of magnitude, it does make me wonder.
"The weight of evidence to my mind indicates that, whether or not there are ET UFOs, someone definitely wants you to think there are."
It is interesting that a great number of UFO sightings are so. . obvious. There are the more stealthy sightings but I'd guess the majority involve bright lights, which is not something you would think ET would need to use, nor would they if they wanted to remain "cloaked" as it were.
It is still altogether possible that UFOs are something we are supposed to think are ETs to hide secret government programs, else someone wants us to believe in ET (and more important, that our Govt is covering up), which would erode faith and trust in government. Even though most researchers can't say for certain ET is here, we can see the results of the BELIEF that they are, and clearly a huge demographic within (and without) the US no longer trusts the government, or even believe govt exists as is commonly believed.
If the erosion of trust of our Govt was or is the goal of some group, I'd say it is working.
Who would benefit from this new subculture belief?
>>If the erosion of trust of our Govt was or is the goal of some group, I'd say it is working.>>
Geez. You think we need UFO and aliens to distrust the government? Phew...and I thought I'd heard everything.
Geez. You think we need UFO and aliens to distrust the government? Phew...and I thought I'd heard everything.
Well there is mere distrust as in people have always distrusted public officials and there is massive distrust in everything people once believed to be true. If the MJ-12 documents are genuine (I don't believe they are btw) then everything is a lie from the top down. Everything taught in school at virtually every level would be a lie, whether you believe yourself to be a bright young (or old) physicist at MIT or Caltech or work in virtually any of the sciences. Even if you worked at high levels in the military or government, pretty much everything you believe in would be untrue. This is a huge allegation and it sounds cool and I think a lot of people would like it to be true.
Belief in MJ-12 would erode not only belief in US government but belief in all governments and borders and treaties. It sets the mental stage for belief in a NWO.
So, to that end, conspiracy theories actually condition people to accept stuff like the New World Order even if there isn't.
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It's not black and white is it? There are half truth, distortions, and omissions as well as lies.
"Even if you worked at high levels in the military or government, pretty much everything you believe in would be untrue."
You mean like the Global War on Terror?
"This is a huge allegation and it sounds cool"
No, it sounds very disturbing to me. If PID is true then I would guess that it isn't the only lie out there.
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Lord. Such drama queens nowadays. I would say travel your history to see how things were then and now. Back when people used their "intuition and common sense" without science we called that superstition. Common sense says the sun revolves around the earth, and a lot of other things philosophers supposed using only their intuition.
Let's go back to when Alexander the Great ruled the known world, or the Romans, who ruled with an iron fist and crucified people by the thousands, and this was the norm back then. Back to the 100 years war, or the Crusades when kids didn't have Twitter and Facebook to bitch about the world's problems, they were all enlisted and fighting with f-ing swords bare hands for centuries and this was the norm. And there were no medics or benefits or parades.
Let's go back to before science and medicine when they thought disease was caused by sinning. Or during the Black Plague when millions died, or the Spanish Flu when millions more died, or the Dark Ages and Inquisition when you'd be burned at the stake for thinking out of the box or even suggesting different ideas. Let's go back to WW1 and WWII when you had Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler running the show and murdering millions. And when atomic bombs destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
How about during the Cold War when there was the Soviet Union with nukes calling for our destruction?
Or even up till fairly recent history was slavery was the norm. Or when women couldn't vote or when gays had to live in secret. You couldn't even show a navel on TV in the 1970s.
And in fact 87 million people are born each year nowadays, so that every two years we have more new people than lived on the entire face of the earth in the first century. Based on that number alone, the percentage of war and murder and raping and pillaging and torturing and every unspeakable thing is a tiny fraction of what it was in centuries past.
When you say common sense and intuition tells them something today is profoundly wrong, I say perhaps it is your perspective that is profoundly wrong. It has ALWAYS been fashionable to say that about the state of the world, and in some eras it was more reasonable to do so.
The world today isn't perfect, but just standard of living alone (washing machines, air conditioning, asprin! for billions) makes today the least hopeless and grueling and awful in recorded history, particularly when you factor in the number of people now living.
Back to your deep conspiracy theories and bitching that you have no freedoms to speak your mind and the PTB try to silence you (as if there are no blogs, twitter, facebook, websites, self-publishing, or standing outside in NYC with a bullhorn).
There has never been more freedom to say what you think. Or to gossip or read about conspiracies (everywhere you look). Or to reach more people in seconds. Never.
I was reading something similar recently on a blog where the question was asked which Era would everyone want to live in and almost everyone said now.
My grandparents and parents (who grew up in the Depression, WWII and Vietnam) always told me my generation (Gen X) had it the easiest in virtually every respect, with the possible exception of it's tougher to buy a home when starting out, but then again they weren't blowing money on designer clothes and luxury cars and tech toys, either.
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